to my Sumitomos. They're not as bad as everyone here says. You get what you pay for. They were great in the rain. They were noticably worse during the last half of their tread life, so yeah, that kinda sucked. They were good enough for me to lap everyone in my advanced beginner group at Watkin Glen. The thing that bugged me the most about them was they gave me some wicked wheel hop from a dead start. That is gone now. I won't be going back to them.